MSI P65 Creator 8RF-450US Ultra Thin Productivity / Gaming Laptop, 15.6" 144Hz Anti-Glare Display, GTX 1070 8GB, i7-8750H, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe, Win 10 Pro 64bit, Backlit Keys, Fingerprint, Metal

I have now owned this laptop for about a month. I spent a long while looking for that holy trinity of gaming laptops: thin, powerful, and good battery life. I finally narrowed my choices down to this laptop or the GIGABYTE Aero 15X, but I decided on the MSI because I was more wary of the GIGABYTE brand. My last laptop was probably twice as heavy and had been worn out so badly that the moment it was unplugged, it would die, so this is quite a step up. Unboxing the laptop and setting it up, I was very impressed and found myself wanting to figure out all the quirks and features this thing has. After a month or so of use, here are the main things everyone should know about it... Pros: Extremely thin and light! I was very happy with the size, which is considerably smaller than my previous HP Pavilion, and probably half the weight. However, despite being light, the weight is proportioned perfectly. When using one hand to open the laptop, the bottom is heavy enough to not be lifted up with the screen. Design! Not going to lie, the gold bezel is pretty snazzy. Its sleek and looks even spiffier than a MacBook. I also prefer the gold MSI dragon emblem to a backlit one. Specs! This is my first gaming laptop, and it plays all of the titles I want without any issue. Im not super picky about all the details, but its a quality setup. You can play probably just about any of your favorite games on standard or even highest settings no problem! Speed! This is a beast of a laptop. Maybe its because I havent gotten a new laptop in a while, but from a complete shutdown to completely on, its maybe 10-20 seconds. Thats quick in my personal experience. Everything goes from black and dead to 100% in a very short amount of time! Settings! You can easily adjust most of your settings from Dragon Center; fans, color/display, keyboard. FN will also highlight some easy, quick selections like keyboard colors, opening Dragon Center, disable trackpad, screen display, webcam, etc. Cons: Keyboard! This is just a personal nitpick, but the font of the keys looks like the 2002 Spider-Man Movie font. The backlit RGB keys are a cool feature, but one I havent used much so far. Speakers! Im not sure if its just mine, but the speakers occasionally dont work without headphones unless I shutdown and restart. SSD Size! I got the 256GB version. I probably should have looked into it more, but the 256GB is essentially split in half between writeable date (c:) and backup (d:). So you really only have about 150GB at default. I will edit my review if I can figure out how to change the hard drive partitions, or upgrade the SSD. Throttling! Once you hit about 30% battery life, a AAA title (in my case, Batman: Arkham Knight) on the highest settings will start throttling majorly. Lots of lag and slow response from the computer. However, the moment you plug it back in, your game will be back to its visually stunning, 60fps self. So far, it hasnt been an issue, but just dont expect to be gaming for 5 hours straight on this thing. Fans and heat! Thankfully you can choose your options for how loud the fans can be, but if running a AAA title, youll probably want to set it to "Cooler Boost," which is incredibly loud but keeps your laptop at a decent level of heat (65 C on average). Still, its a little off-putting when you have your game drowned out by the sound of a noticeably loud whirring of laptop fans. Overall, I am pretty satisfied with my purchase. $1,800 is a good amount of money, but I do believe it will last me a while and I will get plenty of use out of it. Just be wary of the storage, since youll either want to get the 512GB model for $300 more, or install 1TB SSD yourself for $250. Most of the things I mentioned I can get over, but this is obviously not THE perfect laptop. Youre still getting great value for your money!

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First things first, this is a good laptop. Unless you are incredibly picky, you will be happy. But I do have some beef that is self fixable by any owner. Firstly I did not heed the bloatware warning and I am reaping the consequences, even after uninstalling there are many bugs and spam keeps downloading. Please trust me and just completely reinstall windows, you will be much happier. All drivers are on msi website (but I barely used any of them because you dont need them... Why not use windows drivers if they aint broke??). 2 important notes if you reinstall: use the windows installation to delete all partitions and reformat to one partition. Otherwise msi will install their spam again. This is crucial. Also, before you install you can configure it to use Intel RST drivers, if you want RST drivers you pretty much have to add it to the windows installation, I messed up and couldnt get them after but they arent needed.. Secondly you can easily decrease cpu temperatures without decreasing performance by undervolting. Dont be scared, its not dangerous. Only overvolting is dangerous. Worst case scenerio you have to restart your computer. I recommend Throttlestop, and I am easily running -125mv. Ive heard owners run -150mv, if you are concerned just run -100mv. Then create a task scheduler to start throttlestop when you log in. Everything is solid. I love the screen and LOVE the keyboard. This thing smashes games, yeah its only a 1060 but thats plenty for me. If you need more just get the 1070 version.

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We were originally eyeing some pricier laptops but shot for the MSI GS65 after seeing some favorable reviews across the web. We are not disappointed. Pros: - The performance: Its simply a monster laptop. It has no problems running CPU heavy programs like Photoshop and Adobe Premier. It makes productivity apps like Excel and Onenote run without a flicker of disturbance and will run every game I have on high settings -- most on ultra, even. I sometimes have as many as four intensive programs open, and it handles it with pure finesse. - The weight: Its extremely lightweight for how powerful it is. I can easily take this laptop with me wherever I go. Clocking in at 4.14 pounds, its a simple move for any distance. I dont see this weight being an issue for most people. - The design: Unlike your typical gaming computer, the Gs65 sports a sleek and professional design. The programmable keyboard allows for both a creative design for your home, and a simple business oriented design for work. No matter where you use this laptop, it will be appropriate. Mini-con: The dragon logo may have a less than professional “feel”, but if it’s truly an issue — it’s nothing a sticker can’t solve. It also has a very thin display, without a ton of black space (minus the bottom which has about an inch?), so that makes for quite an appealing look. Cons: - The placement of certain ports: Most ports are in perfectly fine places, but the HDMI and charging port are located towards the center of the right side of the laptop. This may not be a universal issue for some, but for me it causes some disturbance to my setup. If these ports were pushed to the end (near the screen) Id be able to comfortably fit everything on my desk. - The noise and heat: This is not uncommon for gaming laptops, and I happen to believe this laptop handles this issue decently. The only reason Im placing this as a con is because Ive noticed the MSI GS65 may be more susceptable to noise issues without much intensity. Ive run some simpler programs that were met with loud-ish cooling efforts, but overall its not a big deal for me personally. Heat wise, the laptop is almost always a little warm -- and after a prolonged period it can become scolding. Again, not uncommon. - The speaker quality: This is my biggest con. I listen to music 95% of the time Im using my laptop, and the speaker quality is pretty abysmal. The laptop does not have a great max voume either, so if you do plan on getting this machine, do not expect great things in that department. Id invest in some decent speakers or headphones if you are an avid listener. Side notes: - The bloatware: MSI sure does have a lot of programs to accompany your machine. I dont know enough about all of them to put them as a pro or con, but I appreciate the effort to add some helpful features. - The battery life: I think its pretty good for a gaming laptop, but its not great. - The OS: Never been a fan of windows 10, but that can change :) Thanks for reading! Hope this helps.

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So I will start off by saying, I like this laptop, but Ive had a few hiccups. To start, the unboxing... the computer came in a regular old brown box which I was kinda shocked to see that housed the power supply and then a much more sleek box that had the laptop inside. I like to keep the boxes so in case it gets stolen, I have the model number and serials, etc... When I booted the laptop up the first time, everything was working pretty well out of the box. Some annoying things are that when I would right click, if you just glanced the keyboard at ALL, the whatever menu you had up would close. There are different inputs on this laptop if you use 1,2,3,4 fingers and that took some getting used to. I still am having problems even when I swear I am not touching anything on the touchpad where menus just close. Still working through that one, might be a windows 10 thing but I have had 3 other laptops and none have had this anomaly. Secondly, the steelseries 3 engine backlit keyboard was working fine, for about a day. When I showed up to my DnD game, I had it set on Disco which is basically multicolored shimmering. I play with a couple of gay guys and a straight guy... and the gaybees absolutely drooled over the colors on the keyboard and some might end up getting a standalone steelseries keyboard because of it. Then during the middle of my DnD game (when I was using the keyboard), the backlighting switched from my preset to just plain white background. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling the steelseries 3 engine software, dragon center software, and updating the drivers. Nothing worked. I contacted customer support and their suggestion was to basically revert from USB to an old image using MSIs burner/system imager. I didnt want to do that so I basically found if I reverted the steelseries 3 engine software back to 3 or 4 versions back, the keyboard would respond to the presets and to backlighting changes. Quirk, and it is a software thing not a hardware thing so I cant dock it too hard. I like multi-display support as in the last couple of days, Ive used it on my home 27" monitors. The batter life works pretty well, but it will suck you dry if you are on performance mode. To get the advertised 8hrs, you basically have to be on "regular" or about 50% brightness. The dragon center is nice to mess around and tweak things. Per the version I got GS65 stealth thin with 1060 GTX graphics it works fine for what I play on it (mainly MMO RPGs on max settings and steam games). Im not a big FPS person, but it does the trick for me. Basically isnt far behind my GTX 1070Ti in my desktop and it is ultra portable which I like. I wish on the PSU there would have been a USB port. I know that is strange, but my last two laptops have had USB ports on the power supply and it was very convenient. The overall design is super sleek and sexy. I like the black steel look. Overall, I like the laptop. I am still working through a few things that I suspect are more software related, but could potentially be just the sensitivity of some of the hardware. I would recommend.

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SOOOOOO fast....like ...really fast. The specs speak for themselves so I will talk about user experience! Build: Very sleek design, the all-metal chasis is a great aesthetic and feel, although there are some sharp edges. Sound: Surprising quality and clarity, with a comfortable max volume that can easily be heard over ambient noise. Screen: Again the specs tell all, but on a note of personal preference, I love the fact that the screen takes up pretty much the entire foldable half of the laptop with less than a centimeter of bordering chasis. (This could put the LCD at greater risk of being damaged, however) Battery/stamina: Batteries keep getting better these days, and the GS65 is no exception. So far it has exceeded the battery life claimed by the manufacturer, lasting a good 20 minutes longer under heavy use. However, the one and only REAL complaint I have is that the all-metal chasis conducts the heat from the CPU/GPU too well. The poor fan system cant keep up with heavy use and the frame overheats and stays hot, so I may have to rig something to help it shed heat. All around: happy with purchase

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